Ukraine military admits they've lost and donbass should be independent

{translated from https://novorosinform.org/ 

BRIEFS FROM FRONT ARMY NEWS

Colonel VSU: We lost the war, Donbass should become independent April 18, 2017 00:02

Ukraine lost the war for the Donbass, the inhabitants of the People's Democratic Republic and the People's Republic of Germany do not want to be "liberated," the only way out for Ukraine is to recognize the independence of Donbass. This was announced by the "online edition" of the Ukrainian publication "Hero of Ilovaisk", Colonel of the Supreme Armed Forces of Ukraine, Deputy Director of the Ukrainian Military Medical Academy Vsevolod Steblyuk.

Answering a question about the chances of "liberation" of Donbass, Steblyuk acknowledged that the inhabitants of the People's Republic of China and the Dniester do not want to be "liberated".

"I have doubts that they really want liberation there. Look, those who really supported Ukraine on that territory - they have been here for a long time. Those who are for the DNR - they are there. And they are really happy. I talk with people who go there, talk with reporters. The people of the People's Republic of China are mostly satisfied with what is happening there. They feel like heroes. They profess the cult of Zakharchenko, Motorola - there portraits of them around the city hang everywhere ... They hate us. We hate them. And so far we can not change this situation, "said the colonel.

"It is impossible to stop this war by someone's decision or diplomatic way. To go to liberate by force? Then it will be a huge sacrifice. In order to liberate the occupied territories of the Donbass and the Crimea, it is necessary to do a sweep, as the Russians did in Grozny: they were simply leveled with the ground. Do we need this? Yes, no one will do it, the world would not understand us, "he added.

On the journalist's question, "what to do", Steblyuk responded with an offer to recognize the independence of Donbass.

"The only normal way, which can be, is to say: yes, we recognize that you are now independent republics. We set the border, establish clear rules for crossing the border. We set the customs rules for the movement of any goods outside the customs clearance - smuggling! Over time, we will think about establishing diplomatic relations with you. But we clearly share: it is a foreign country. We stop funding you, we stop paying social assistance. And we ourselves relieve the responsibility for the restoration, for the content of what is there. You wanted independence? You wanted to Russia? You are welcome! Hold elections, live for yourself, "he said.

At the same time, the APU officer stressed that Ukraine lost the war for the Donbass.

"We will all be better off if we stop this. If we find the courage to admit defeat. To say: yes, we lost this war. We lost it when we were "cradling" the Soviet idea of ​​"selectivity" of the Donbas proletariat, when we could not oppose propaganda in 2004, when the effigy of "Ukrainian nationalism" and "the hands of the US Department of State" was launched ... Remember - the map of Ukraine divided into Three varieties ... We lost this war when we could not realize in practice those golden words: East and West together ... There are many reasons, but we really lost this war for the Donbass even before it began, "Vsevolod Steblyuk stated.

Vysotsky, a Verkhovna Rada deputy, proposed to abandon the Donbass earlier.

Political scientist Karasev said that if the Kiev authorities do not change their policy with regard to the People's Democratic Republic and the People's Republic of China, by 2018 Russia will recognize their independence.

We draw your attention to the fact that the organizations IGIL, OUN, UPA, UNA-UNSO, the Right Sector, the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people, the Trident of them. Stepan Bandera is recognized as extremist and banned in the territory of the Russian Federation.

What western MSM wont say about the ghouta chemical attack {2013}

We've all heard by now the brutal chemical attack in the syrian town of ghouta 21 august 2013 and again in 2017 and how it was carried out by the army of Assad. How so called "weapons expert" eliot higgins {who has never trained in ANY munitions expertise} but forward a case that it was "impossible" that rebels {Al-qaeda/Al-nusra front-FSA} or others could have done this. Eliot draws on his "vast experience" surfing youtube and wikipedia to dismiss and discredit actual MIT expert as well as UN mandated experts to claim he is right and everyone else is a moron

What eliot and the western MSM fails to tell you that in december 2012 a terrorist faction called A-reeh Al-sarsar made chilling threats to the syrian army that they would draw on their collective expertise to completely wipe out all allawite-shia-christians and other shahiba's {enemies of sunni islam} with the use of chemical weapons 

This group appears to have made good on their threat when on 21 august 2013 the town of ghouta was attacked with chemical weapons possibly mustard gas. The same blistering effect can be seen on syrian soldiers in a later attack carried out by Al-nusra as on the victims of the ghouta 2013 attack .

Eliot higgins makes the fantasy that it could not have been "rebels" AQ -FSA etc as they had no means to do so .....THIS IS UTTERLY FALSE as eliot well knows that large stockpiles of chemicals were stolen from the iraqi army as well as these terrorist seizing chlorine factories. They also smuggle in chemical weapons from libya {with the blessing of the US} and via turkey as exposed by turkish MP's who now languish in prison for doing so. click on below links for stories and video 

Assad gave up his chemical weapons stockpiles in 2013 as to avoid being the target of international military attack on syria and widely praised by western politicians  

So you must keep in mind that assad was forced to give up his Chemical weapons stock in 2013 while terrorists were busying themselves stealing and smuggling chemical weapons into syrian as well as using them in iraq and syria over the last number of years 

  

Ukraine army are tired of a futile war

Original story via antimaydan and written by Vitaly Slepenchuk {i only sharing story in english}

With this military contract-I met in a bar in the Central market in Kharkov. Nearby was an empty seat, and had a bit to make room. From under the Civil viewed jackets worn and overlaundered camouflage, some of our "rear heroes" here on their flare marches and actions are not. He was obviously in his forties. Yes and weathered, tin-coated face can be seen - a man from the front. After the stock phrases asked:

- With the "front end"?

- From there, where else?

- Well, as there at the front?

- As usual.

- Shoot?

- Shoot.

- The war would soon end?

- We still have enough.

- Dembel?

- Sooner me on a business trip, bosses with volunteers sent for Christmas gifts and other necessary things. We are on the self-supply. Fighting for Nenko Ukraine exclusively at their own expense. From "Roshen" factory audio candy we have not yet received.

- It has long been at war?

- In the summer of 15-th.

After the third glass serviceman have been able to talk. The picture sketched them on the situation in the area differentiation, it was distant from that shown on television.

Briefly summarized everything that was possible to hear from the source, it turns the situation around this character.

The war took a long time positional and very frontline life returned to its measured rut. Life and supply the whole more or less established. Help volunteers decreased significantly, but somehow manages to get out. Items equipped, trenches dug, live in dugouts. Inside mounted stove, held the light on the walls of abandoned houses requisitioned carpets, microwaves. With TVs also have no problems. There is internet and mobile communications.

With militias relations, in general, normal, each other neither one nor the other trying not to offend. Provocations clashes mostly satisfied with the frank Nazis.

The war is already fed up with all this. However, many of her somehow adapt, adapt himself. And some even very well settled, mainly those with headquarters in supply units, and especially at checkpoints.

After demobilization from the rabble freezed "patriots", "Avatar" and other degenerates declined, remained mostly contractors. The units are very big shortage. So, in the company instead of the 100 people now it is 30-40. Platoon instead of 30 to 10.

Of the remainder, there is the ideological bandarlogi, but they were a little such do not last long, and they are a handful more in the National Guard under where satiety, safer, and have something to make money. There are homeless people and former criminals who simply have nowhere to go.

There are those who simply do not want to have to return to his former life. Here they somehow get by, adapt himself, no money have to pay, feed, vodka is always there, even friends were local. And at home waiting for the problem: there is no work, families who have to feed ...

Very often I have to listen to this kind of talk on the phone. He calls his wife, they say, no money, nothing to pay for an apartment, collect the children to school no matter what, parents get sick, need medication. In response to irritation - "I sent two thousand, that have yet to me? Do not you know where I am? I'm at war. Go to the deputy, say that the wife of the ATO member, you put benefits and discounts. It will not help, then tell me, that I myself will come and deal with them in a different way ... "

A contingent of soldiers mainly stayed out of the countryside, which, because of their inertia could not wriggle out of mobilization. Sly citizens have long been in Europe or in Russia batrachat at a safe distance.

Preparation of commanders - zero. Especially at the platoon and company level. Nobody especially their wacky command fails. Everyone acts according to its own discretion. Know what happen dust-, the commanders of the very first fall down from the position, leaving us, as it was in Debaltsevo. Listen more and reckon with the opinion of sergeants and privates, even from those who have been serving in the Soviet army.

Relationship with the National Guard under the APU and the border is very tense. Those are used at checkpoints on roads and good profit from extortion and robbery with Fur civilians who pass through KPVV. Border guards earn fortunes after a 3-month trip to the ATO zone. They and on its borders with Europe and Russia feel good: krysheval supply of cigarettes, alcohol, food sanctions. But such contraband sweep, as the demarcation line, even they did not see. On one wagon sugar receive 30 thousand. Hryvnia. Do not forget them and their border generals - the flow of money in Kiev, the management UASBGS does not dry out, and so as not to interfere with earning, sharing the same with the SBU, the police, the prosecutor's office. And on the other side of the demarcation line are satisfied - the delivery of essential goods continues, despite the blockade. True GPSUshniki a bit worried because of the fact that they will have new competitors in the face and other Semenchenko-Natsik veterans who announced the "total" blockade republics. Of course, no one at the front does not believe that these clowns are seriously going to deal with "gray" supplies of goods across the demarcation line - they are driven only a desire to cling to nourishing the trough, under patriotic slogans and put their roadblocks as well as border guards and smugglers milk. But the "defenders of the borders" tvrdo intention to fight for their own and avoid the latter-day competition. So that smuggling will flourish. VSUshnikov to their places of bread pograntsy also close do not admit, it happened distilled machine guns and gunfire. In response, also obtained, - weapons and equipment from the APU is powerful.

But in the APU have their own sources of income. There are passages in the demarcation line, bypassing the official checkpoint. Conductors, collected from local groups and with the permission of the commander whom to spend with hand baggage to bypass the minefields and by agreement with the "separatists".

Speaking about the possibility of any serious attack to occur. To do this, no people, no technical capabilities. Weapons are often out of order, for service already supplied guns "Maxim", the Second World War, the appliances all killed, there is no fuel. Repair base is not available, all repaired to the position by the crew. Often, if the BMP on the move, the gun does not fire when shooting a gun, the engine is not corrected. A fair amount of mines, grenades and shells taken from storage, with the shots just do not break. Cartridges misfire.

If the militias begin a serious offensive, even to fight back, and will have nothing to fall back on what is not. Most likely it will end up with new boilers. Recent reconnaissance under Svetlodarsk these problems clearly confirmed.

Overall, the morale of the military compared to the years 2014-2015 has been steadily declining. Svidomo "patriots" of those who are not killed themselves fled, unable to bear the sad life of trench life. Gut them was thin. Racketeering, extortion and extortion in the rear of the house under a patriotic flag them much safer and more profitable.

Simple as fighters have long been tired of the senseless war, a mushrooming of new amputees, leaving orphaned children on both sides of the front, grief poisoning and poor Poltava farm and mining towns of Donbass. But the soldiers to go nowhere - they turn to Kiev has not yet been solved, not all are ready to desert. So pull the strap out of despair difficult war, obeying senseless orders.

That such a conversation took place involuntary me recently with a conventional fighter with advanced. It is currently adequate, seasoned life in the war, sophisticated everyday danger.

Vitaly Slepenchuk,

Harkov town

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